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By Stinky Pete
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This is what I honestly think. He really doesn't want to be president. He just wants the attention. So, he keeps saying outrageous, stupid things, figuring that it will knock him out of the lead. But he overestimated the IQ of the average American, and he's not able to intentionally self destruct.
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By Phaedrus
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SALINA, KS—Local man Scott Gentries told reporters Wednesday that his deliberately limited grasp of Islamic history and culture was still more than sufficient to shape his views of the entire Muslim world.

Gentries, 48, said he had absolutely no interest in exposing himself to further knowledge of Islamic civilization or putting his sweeping opinions into a broader context of any kind, and confirmed he was "perfectly happy" to make a handful of emotionally charged words the basis of his mistrust toward all members of the world's second-largest religion.

"I learned all that really matters about the Muslim faith on 9/11," Gentries said in reference to the terrorist attacks on the United States undertaken by 19 of Islam's approximately 1.6 billion practitioners. "What more do I need to know to stigmatize Muslims everywhere as inherently violent radicals?"

"And now they want to build a mosque at Ground Zero," continued Gentries, eliminating any distinction between the 9/11 hijackers and Muslims in general. "No, I won't examine the accuracy of that statement, but yes, I will allow myself to be outraged by it and use it as evidence of these people's universal callousness toward Americans who lost loved ones when the Twin Towers fell."

"Even though I am not one of those people," he added.

When told that the proposed "Ground Zero mosque" is actually a community center two blocks north of the site that would include, in addition to a public prayer space, a 500-seat auditorium, a restaurant, and athletic facilities, Gentries shook his head and said, "I know all I'm going to let myself know."

Gentries explained that it "didn't take long" to find out as much about the tenets of Islam as he needed to. He said he knew Muslims stoned their women for committing adultery, trained for terrorist attacks at fundamentalist madrassas, and believed in jihad, which Gentries described as the thing they used to justify killing infidels.

"All Muslims are at war with America, and I will resist any attempt to challenge that assertion with potentially illuminating facts," said Gentries, who threatened to leave the room if presented with the number of Muslims who live peacefully in the United States, serve in the country's armed forces, or were victims themselves of the 9/11 attacks. "Period."

"If you don't believe me, wait until they put your wife in a burka," Gentries continued in reference to the face-and-body-covering worn by a small minority of Muslim women and banned in the universities of Turkey, Tunisia, and Syria. "Or worse, a rape camp. That's right: For reasons I am content being totally unable to articulate, I am choosing to associate Muslims with rape camps."

Over the past decade, Gentries said he has taken pains to avoid personal interactions or media that might have the potential to compromise his point of view. He told reporters that the closest he had come to confronting a contrary standpoint was tuning in to the first few seconds of an interview with a moderate Muslim cleric before hastily turning off the television.

"I almost gave in and listened to that guy defend Islam with words I didn't want to hear," Gentries said. "But then I remembered how much easier it is to live in a world of black-and-white in which I can assign the label of 'other' to someone and use him as a vessel for all my fears and insecurities."

Added Gentries, "That really put things back into perspective."
By DZicy
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Phaedrus wrote:Today his latest policy is to stop all Muslims from entering the country.



Unfortunately it may come to that or at least to a the point of extreme vetting and extensive wait listing. And please spare us the racism bit. This is about dealing with the real problem of Islamic terrorism which has nothing whatever to do with race. Oh how awful if the terrorist Pakistani wife had not been able to get in. Perhaps if she had not there would not have been a terrorist attack. And what is the problem with limiting immigration? They are not American citizens being deprived of any Constitutional Rights. You and your president talk a good game about fighting terrorism but in reality will not step up to do what is necessary. Please step aside, Americans are dying and we'd like to try and stop it. there has never been a war like this one. Not all Muslims are terrorists, but thus far all the major terror attacks, San Bernardino, in part, 9/11, Boston marathon, involved immigrant Muslims. Undeniable fact. You apparently do not care. So be it. Yyour opinion is stated, now again please step aside and let America defend itself.
By DZicy
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Phaedrus wrote:Today his latest policy is to stop all Muslims from entering the country.


You don't seem to have any objections to the Attorney General threatening to prosecute speech she deems anti-Muslim hate speech.
Or the NY times calling for gun confiscation. That your concern with non-citizens not being permitted into the country outweighs your concern for the open advocacy of curtailment of the Constitutional rights of American citizens, makes me wonder.
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By Phaedrus
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DZicy wrote:
Phaedrus wrote:Today his latest policy is to stop all Muslims from entering the country.



Unfortunately it may come to that or at least to a the point of extreme vetting and extensive wait listing. And please spare us the racism bit. This is about dealing with the real problem of Islamic terrorism which has nothing whatever to do with race. Oh how awful if the terrorist Pakistani wife had not been able to get in. Perhaps if she had not there would not have been a terrorist attack. And what is the problem with limiting immigration? They are not American citizens being deprived of any Constitutional Rights. You and your president talk a good game about fighting terrorism but in reality will not step up to do what is necessary. Please step aside, Americans are dying and we'd like to try and stop it. there has never been a war like this one. Not all Muslims are terrorists, but thus far all the major terror attacks, San Bernardino, in part, 9/11, Boston marathon, involved immigrant Muslims. Undeniable fact. You apparently do not care. So be it. Yyour opinion is stated, now again please step aside and let America defend itself.


The issue of citizenship in the practice of religion is settled Constitutional law. What Trump is proposing is un-Constitutional. My personal belief is that this will make us less safe, not more safe. That is the crux of the argument. What you consider necessary, I consider folly, and vice-versa
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By Phaedrus
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DZicy wrote:
Phaedrus wrote:Today his latest policy is to stop all Muslims from entering the country.


You don't seem to have any objections to the Attorney General threatening to prosecute speech she deems anti-Muslim hate speech.
Or the NY times calling for gun confiscation. That your concern with non-citizens not being permitted into the country outweighs your concern for the open advocacy of curtailment of the Constitutional rights of American citizens, makes me wonder.


You would have to show me statements I have made on these issues. I assume on your third sentence you think the right to bear arms is an unfettered right and that any limitation is ultra vires. That is incorrect. It is also the case that I am not discussing non-citizens. I am discussing a religious test.

By the way, Trump also said Muslim citizens who leave, for any reason, should not be allowed back in.
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